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Is party over for the Tea Partiers?

August 17, 2013

After the Tea Party’s ascendancy, attention is now being paid to those traditional conservatives like John McCain and Tom Coburn who want some co-operation with President Barack Obama....

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TruthSeeker

Aug-17-13 7:34 AM

You'll see when we all go to vote! Goodbye Liberal Socialists!!

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TruthSeeker

Aug-17-13 8:08 AM

John McCain started out a democrat, and he's always been a democrat and still is. All these liberals who 'leave' their party like Mr. Lewis in WV is doing to run on a Republican ticket because he's lost all his democrat support, don't leave their stupid liberal thinking. They still fight for controlling YOU, taking away your guns, forcing YOU to pay for liberal loose womens' abortions, and think muslims and commies are our 'friends.' No one is ever fooled by these stupid people. Changing a party 'name' doesn't mean YOU have changed your thinking.

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nelliebly

Aug-17-13 8:45 AM

John McCain was NEVER a Democrat. In fact, before the lunatic fringe aka the Baggers took control of the republican party, McCain was considered to be a conservative republican.

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solutions

Aug-17-13 10:20 AM

By contrast, the Democratic Party is really sick, witness their focus on Hillary, who's only claim to fame is being married to a scumbag. How sick is that? Better a healthy debate in the GOP than the single-minded, unthinking support of another Clinton. Talk about a sick political party! The Democrats are awash in ignorance.

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nelliebly

Aug-17-13 6:23 PM

Hillary Clinton is the former Senator from New York and more recently the Secretary of State. If she chooses to run for President, she will win in a landslide.

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solutions

Aug-17-13 9:54 PM

nellie, would you care to mention her job performance in those two posts. Is the U.S. held in higher esteem today because she was secretary of state? She's taken responsibility for the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi. What else has she "accomplished"? The only thing she's done is pursue her own agenda, and her ambition forced her to accept her scumbag of a husband.

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nelliebly

Aug-18-13 5:50 AM

solutions, rather than my elaborating on Mrs. Clinton's many accomplishments, both personal and professional, why don't you discuss your personal choice who is, I believe, Ted Cruz.

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solutions

Aug-18-13 9:42 AM

nellie, it's obvious you've been taking lessons from Joe Manchin. Come on. Answer the question. Don't try to slide out from under it. Tell us all about Hillary and how she's responsible for the deaths of the four Americans in Benghazi. And don't scream, "What difference does it make?" Hillary's already tried that.

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nelliebly

Aug-18-13 1:22 PM

No, solutions, I'm not going to waste time providing you with facts about Mrs. Clinton or her qualifications. Hillary Clinton has a very long history of public service and an impressive academic background. You aren't interested in facts but you are interested in hanging onto RW myths, misinformation and lies.

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solutions

Aug-18-13 7:02 PM

Nellie, ever heard of the Whitewater scandal and the mysterious appearance of billing records in the White House? Check it out. I really don't think we want her back in the White House.

What, your reference to "lunacy" brings to mind the Obama presidency. Take a look at the Middle East today. Obama and Hillary deserve a big share of the credit/blame. And you want more of that? Surely not.

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nelliebly

Aug-18-13 7:27 PM

solutions, since you have been paying such rapt attention to FoxNoise, why don't you enlighten us about Whitewater...

For example, who was that Special Prosecutor again and what were the findings about the Clintons and Whitewater?

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solutions

Aug-18-13 11:25 PM

Nellie, you're relying way too much on Huffington for your "news."

You're reference to Fox News escapes me. What in the world are you talking about?

As for Whitewater, the special counsel, Robert Ray, concluded,

"This office determined that the evidence was insufficient to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that either President or Mrs. Clinton knowingly participated in any criminal conduct."

Ray also criticized the White House, saying delays in the production of evidence and "unmeritorious litigation" by the president's lawyers hindered the investigation.

What it boils down to is that the Clintons spent a ton of money on lawyers and slipped out of the noose.

"Insufficient evidence" was hardly an exhoneration of the Clintons. They're shady from the get-go, and thanks to their stalling tactics, their guilt could not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Wonder if she'll include that in her campaign literature.

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nelliebly

Aug-19-13 1:06 AM

So, solutions, despite the facts which you have provided, you prefer to believe the FoxNoise version. Clearly you will not accept facts even when you, yourself, cannot avoid quoting verbatim from the Special Prosecutor.

Excerpt: As for Whitewater, the special counsel, Robert Ray, concluded, "This office determined that the evidence was insufficient to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that either President or Mrs. Clinton knowingly participated in any criminal conduct."

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solutions

Aug-19-13 8:51 AM

nellie, your argument is so weak that it doesn't deserve a response. Goodbye.

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nelliebly

Aug-19-13 1:11 PM

solutions, it was not necessary for me to make an argument for or against the Clintons. You provided the verbatim quote which, in fact, determined that they were not guilty of any wrong doing. Like it or not, the Special Prosecutor, with all the investigatory resources behind him, could not find any evidence to the contrary.

Excerpt: As for Whitewater, the special counsel, Robert Ray, concluded, "This office determined that the evidence was insufficient to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that either President or Mrs. Clinton knowingly participated in any criminal conduct."

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Antipoop

Aug-20-13 8:40 AM

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say none of you have researched the facts of your posts further than listing to the opinions of your favorite bias media. Fox News/NBC/CNN/NPR/etc.. If the left doesn't get you, the right will. Ever read the Benghazi Reports? Really read them? Or did your favorite anchorman read it to you? Ever been on wiki-leaks? Ever read any actual transcripts of the events transpiring in Libya/Syria/Gitmo/and even famine stricken Somalia? Or did your news say you weren't allowed to read them? I understand, 700,000 leaked Afghanistan documents are hard to read through. It's much easier to be a puppet and do as your told.

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Antipoop

Aug-20-13 8:42 AM

"Politics, noun. A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage." —Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

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solutions

Aug-20-13 9:26 AM

Nellie, you need to hone your critical reading skills.

The special prosecutor did NOT find they were not guilty. He just said they didn't have enough evidence to convict them.

There's a world of difference.

The Clintons paid enough lawyers to in effect obstruct the investigation. Give Hillary points for figuring out how to get out of trouble, but don't give her points for being "not guilty."

Now, you want to talk about Benghazi?

Antipoop: You need to see a doctor specializing in disorders of the brain.

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Antipoop

Aug-20-13 11:44 AM

Any recommendations? Who's your doctor? His drugs sound fun...

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nelliebly

Aug-20-13 12:07 PM

solutions, you can parse my sentence construction in an attempt to prove your own point; however, I chose my words carefully within the context of the excerpted quote you posted.

The RW Media Machine is very unwise to focus on Whitewater which was the investigation into a complicated real estate transaction which occurred decades ago. The investigation itself took place over twenty years ago and rather than compromising the Clintons, it resulted in highlighting the witch hunt mentality of the republican party.

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solutions

Aug-20-13 2:51 PM

nellie, Ok, would you care to comment on the NYT investigation into the Clinton Foundation? And don't try to say Hillary's not involved. She's up to her eyeballs in the muck.

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nelliebly

Aug-20-13 3:23 PM

OK, solutions, I'll comment on the NYT article about the Clinton Foundation. I agree with J. K. Trotter at GAWKER.

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solutions

Aug-20-13 5:06 PM

nellie, now I understand why you're thinking is so misguided. You rely on Gawker and Trotter.

It's no wonder you're off the wall.

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nelliebly

Aug-20-13 5:31 PM

Tell me, solutions...what do you know about Roger Ailes?

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solutions

Aug-21-13 1:03 PM

nellie:

Camille Paglia: "It remains baffling how anyone would think that Hillary Clinton (born the same year as me) is our party’s best chance. She has more sooty baggage than a 90-car freight train. And what exactly has she ever accomplished — beyond bullishly covering for her philandering husband? She’s certainly busy, busy and ever on the move — with the tunnel-vision workaholism of someone trying to blot out uncomfortable private thoughts."

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