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Reader ‘appalled’ by Barnes’ idea

February 1, 2014

I have never been more appalled than when I read the article in the newspaper about Sen. Clark Barnes....

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Jane26241

Feb-01-14 9:33 AM

Marijuana is already the number one cash crop in WV, why not legalize it and collect taxes on it? Seems like a great way out of the recession to legalize marijuana. I applaud Clark Barnes for daring to suggest this forward thinking solution.

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nelliebly

Feb-01-14 1:33 PM

ABC - 1/28/14 - excerpt: The federal government is ready to let farmers grow cannabis — at least the kind that can't get people high.

Hemp — marijuana's non-intoxicating cousin that's used to make everything from clothing to cooking oil — could soon be cultivated in 10 states under a federal farm bill agreement reached late Monday that allows the establishment of pilot growing programs.

The plant's return to legitimacy could clear the way for U.S. farmers to compete in an industry currently dominated by China. Even though it hasn't been grown in the U.S., the country is one of the fastest-growing hemp markets.

In 2011, the U.S. imported $11.5 million worth of legal hemp products, up from $1.4 million in 2000. Most of that growth was seen in hemp seed and hemp oil, which finds its way into granola bars and other products. ...

"We are laying the groundwork for a new commodity market for Kentucky farmers," Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, said in a statement.

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nelliebly

Feb-01-14 2:02 PM

The ABC excerpt I posted is a RELATED STORY, conservobots...just chill with the knee-jerk comment waiting to fly off your keyboard.

The legalization of hemp is an important step forward and one which deserves support. Mitch McConnell wants it for his state.

To understand how the very wealthy and influential control the economy of this country, Google William Randolph Hearst as he relates to hemp.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-01-14 7:42 PM

Nellie, pay attention, Barnes wasn't suggesting that we grow hemp for making rope, or any other products, he was talking about growing a controlled substance, marijuana. If you think legalized marijuana is a good idea, by all means, move to California or some other state where it is legal. We need our legislators cracking down on drugs, not selling them. I know the law doesn't mean anything to you unless you can twist it for your own purposes, but most people in this state will not agree with growing dope for profit, even if the state's the one growing it.

And just in case you're thinking of cashing in on the state's windfall from growing it, think again. They wouldn't be selling it local. All of it would go out of state, so you get rid of that glazed over look of anticipation. Won't happen.

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nelliebly

Feb-01-14 7:59 PM

As usual, TruthSeeker, you are clueless:

nb: "The ABC excerpt I posted is a RELATED STORY, conservobots...just chill with the knee-jerk comment waiting to fly off your keyboard."

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ThisSentenceIsFalse

Feb-02-14 7:09 AM

I went to college and saw the dastardly effects it had on the misguided youth. Let me tell you, pot is infinitely less interesting either side will tell you. Colorado's pro-green population is probably getting fat and watching Breaking Bad reruns from the bathtub as we speak. You don't inject 10 Marijuanas and go on a killing spree but it's no Pineapple Express Dude Where's My Car super adventure either.

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nelliebly

Feb-02-14 8:29 AM

One More Time...I posted an excerpt from ABC about a RELATED STORY. I did not offer an opinion about Senator Barnes. It is important to make the distinction and I suggest reading the Forbes article, "Congress Expected to Approve Experimental Hemp Cutivation in 10 States" (1/30/14)

WV is one of the 10 states.

excerpt: The hemp provision, which allows cultivation by colleges, universities, and state agriculture departments for research purposes, was introduced in the House by Reps. Jared Polis (D-Colo.), Thomas Massie (R-Ky.), and Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.). Its main champion in the Senate, which is expected to pass the farm bill as soon as next week, was Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who took up the cause of farmers in his state who see hemp as a potentially lucrative business. “In 2011,” A.P. notes, “the U.S. imported $11.5 million worth of legal hemp products, up from $1.4 million in 2000.”

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nelliebly

Feb-02-14 1:31 PM

Senator Barnes, a republican, responded to Senator Helmick, a democrat and Chairman of Ag Committee:

Charleston Gazette - 1/14/14 - Sen. Clark Barnes, R-Randolph, raised the issue of legalizing growing marijuana for export only to states where the product is legal.

"We may never legalize marijuana in West Virginia, but maybe the potential exists for us to export the crop," Barnes said.

He cited a investment report indicating that legal marijuana sales in states including Colorado and Washington is projected to grow from $2.43 billion this year to $10.2 billion by 2019, and that demand for legal pot in those states may outpace production. (end excerpt)

It must have been a slow news day to blow this exchange so out of proportion.

To understand the connection between the Federal lifting of the ban on hemp growing and growing cannabis sativa to produce pot, it is important to understand the historical and botanical connection. Clearly, the readers of this thread do not.

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nelliebly

Feb-02-14 5:59 PM

Senators Barnes and Helmick, both on the Ag Committee, discussed various issues which included growing marijuana to sell to states where it is legal. Re-read the IM article.

I posted a RELATED STORY. Read the two articles I recommend. Legislators all over this country are aware of the legalization of cannabis sativa for various purposes. I'm not going to attempt to connect the dots for those too lazy to research an important issue.

re-post: It must have been a slow news day to blow this exchange so out of proportion.

To understand the connection between the Federal lifting of the ban on hemp growing and growing cannabis sativa to produce pot, it is important to understand the historical and botanical connection. Clearly, the readers of this thread do not.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-03-14 9:33 AM

Pure...Nellie doesn't have much education. She just rambles about stuff she obviously has no clue about. It's funny to read her comments though; makes you laugh and shake your head in disbelief that anyone could be so stupid but hey.....she's about the only 'supporter' left of Obama's and democrats. lolol.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-03-14 9:44 AM

LOL. Jane only 'agrees' with a republican when they 'agree' with her wanting to smoke some pot without worrying about any legal consequences, eh??

Clark Barnes is just one more FAKE conservative that's not going to keep his job! This just nailed his lack of a political future.

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nelliebly

Feb-03-14 4:15 PM

Ah, yes, more brilliant political analysis from TruthSeeker:

TS: "...Clark Barnes is just one more FAKE conservative that's not going to keep his job! This just nailed his lack of a political future."

Senator Barnes is the first republican to be elected in his district since 1936. It's safe to assume that if he lost a primary to one of your wackadoodles, TS, any democrat who can walk and chew gum at the same time would win in a landslide.

Losing another seat to a democrat would be the price you "conservatives" would pay. What could possibly be wrong with that?

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nelliebly

Feb-03-14 5:04 PM

It's really just easier to re-post ...

nb excerpt: "... Senator Barnes is the first republican to be elected in his district since 1936. It's safe to assume that if he lost a primary to one of your wackadoodles, TS, any democrat who can walk and chew gum at the same time would win in a landslide.

Losing another seat to a democrat would be the price you "conservatives" would pay. What could possibly be wrong with that?"

I say let the "conservatives" have at Senator Barnes...primary him with a local TeaBagger. I can think of a few who would totally destroy any hopes of a republican win and ensure another seat for the Dems.

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nelliebly

Feb-04-14 7:56 AM

I do post excerpts from sources which I attribute. What I do NOT do is edit the excerpts to fit my agenda. I also do NOT change specific quotes to conform to my beliefs.

I do not need to concoct elaborate lies and I stand by my comments.

I continue to post on this forum in the hopes that readers of the IM recognize that the IM comments board is not the domain of a few ignorant extremists who have attempted to dominate and control it.

Maj, I am not now, nor will I ever be a "conservative". You really need a "mute" button for those voices in your head.

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nelliebly

Feb-04-14 8:21 AM

Really, Maj?

Maj: "... And maybe you might tempre your insults until you havent got an argument. Notice I never insult people. Its called cool. GIve it a whirl."

Shall I scroll down and do some more cutting and pasting? I recognize that you and so many others who share your particular brand of crazy believe that your ignorant and rude comments are not personal, but are directed toward invented stereotypes of groups of people you have been told to hate and distrust. Anyone on this thread who even appears to support Senator Barnes is accused of smoking pot and any number of other related offenses. Of course that is libel and the next time those allegations are made, I will report the comment(s) as Abuse.

It's impossible to take any of you people seriously, but you are all loud and rude and want to dominate and control. The IM discussion board is intended to be a forum where anyone can comment and contribute. I am doing just that.

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nelliebly

Feb-04-14 8:57 AM

Maj, you have a lot of conflicted ideas running around in your head and it is never more apparent than when you post a comment, i.e.,...

"...Indeed. So stop trying to tailor it to what YOU want to hear. Maybe, oh No! you arent in the majority. Aaaaaahhhhh!"

Either you understand the concept of discuss and debate or you pout when your POV isn't applauded and approved.

If you can't hold your own on a little-read newspaper comments forum, you should go back to the drawing board.

Right now the issue on this thread about Senator Barnes is that allegations were made about people who appear to support his recent comments to the Ag Committee re planting marijuana to export to states where it is legal. The allegations were meant to suppress comments about the issue which the IM reported.

These allegations are libel and an attempt at bullying those who wish to express their opinion on this thread.

I believe these allegations constitute Abuse.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-04-14 12:31 PM

Typical liberals...rant just to be ranting. Half of what they whine about they dont even know themselves "why;" only that they were TOLD by Obama/dems emails to do it. LOL.

Nellie, you complain about EVERYTHING, yet 'explain' NOTHING. Do YOU know why you're such an angry, hateful bully???

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nelliebly

Feb-04-14 1:34 PM

Projection again, TruthSeeker.

"Projection" means that you attribute your own experiences, shortcomings and limitations to others. Projection is often a symptom of narcissism, a personality disorder very common in people who self-identify as "conservative".

While you don't understand most of what you read in my comments, you invariably pluck words and phrases out to use as your own and that is a form of plagiarism.

I don't blame you, TruthSeeker. You live in the echo chamber that is right wing talk radio Griftopia and even people like you need some fresh air from time to time. Bought gold lately?

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nelliebly

Feb-04-14 2:46 PM

Not a chance, Maj, "...something tells me she might be the one in retreat. Cheers..."

You do not want to be challenged for all the usual conservative reasons but also because you are just too unsophisticated to talk politics with me or anyone else who takes the time to read and research. You are influenced by people like O'Keefe who does not deserve your hero worship. People like O'Keefe and any other right wing grifters who attract your attention like shiny things are not going to enhance your understanding of politics...just take your money and laugh all the way to the bank.

I've been posting on the IM forum for some time and I know libel when I see it. It also doesn't hurt to have a legal background.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-05-14 6:59 AM

Maj and Pure....you're both correct in your assessment of Nellie. There's no one she hasn't shown her Intolerance and bullying tactics to on here. I think we all have enough to 'report' her...but since WE are the "tolerant" ones and the more "forgiving" ones; we won't. We happen to 'believe' EVERYONE has a right to their opinion, even if it is stupid and illogical.

Nellie is typical of the left today; they want the power to tell everyone else what they can and cannot say, do or eat. Where they can or cannot work, what they can or cannot do with their own property, and on and on. Their 'character' or 'lack thereof' is all you need to see to know what they are.

Grow up Nellie. Your hypocrisy, your arrogance, your childish responses, your disrespect of everyone in here and your so obvious bullying, intimidation, and intolerance is very unbecoming and doesn't work in attempts to change people's minds about their own opinions. It quite honestly helps them to see why t

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TruthSeeker

Feb-05-14 7:03 AM

continued....

to see why their own opinions are correct and your's oh so wrong. Who in the world would want to be like YOU? I am happy with my life. You and other dems are angry 24x7; never satisfied even when you get what you want and are most illogical thinking because you think 'emotionally' rather than 'intelligently.' Get a grip on yourself Nellie before something in you 'explodes.' That is not at all a healthy attitude to have. It will eat you up inside. Ask any doctor. Why so angry because everyone doesn't agree with you? Why do you have such a 'need' to make the world want what YOU want, agree with everything YOU say??? Personal issues YOU must address maybe with a professional some day. Until then, you will NEVER be happy with yourself and your own life. Do you just live to 'aggravate' everyone? Sad place to be.

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nelliebly

Feb-05-14 7:04 AM

TruthSeeker, let's give you a chance to evaluate and discuss an issue using the Question and Answer format...

Do you agree or disagree with this comment?

"...I can't think of a single reason anyone who hasn't used drugs would defend the legalization of them, unless they have used them, either now or in the past."

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TruthSeeker

Feb-05-14 2:07 PM

WHo hasn't Nellie 'accused' of something in here? I have records too Nellie. Want to play this game? Go for it. I have plenty from you!

Nellie is a child and proves it every second. Cry me a river. boo hoo. She can dish it out, but she can't take it. Then leave this forum. You never do anything but attack personally anyway.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-05-14 2:39 PM

Well, here's an interesting statistic but the liberals will argue against it. Truth hurts them politically you know.

"The legalization of marijuana is an idea that is gaining momentum in the United States, but there may be a dark side to pot becoming more commonplace, a new study suggests.

Fatal crashes involving marijuana use tripled during the previous decade, fueling some of the overall increase in drugged-driving traffic deaths, researchers from Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health report."

"Currently, one of nine drivers involved in fatal crashes would test positive for marijuana," said co-author Dr. Guohua Li, director of the Center for Injury Epidemiology and Prevention at Columbia. "If this trend continues, in five or six years non-alcohol drugs will overtake alcohol to become the most common substance involved in deaths related to impaired driving."

And Nellie, this is on Yahoo News among other news outlets both offline and

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TruthSeeker

Feb-05-14 2:41 PM

online. Enjoy!

Now enlighten us with your opinions that go against state police traffic accident reports; drug tests and researchers from Columbia U. Go ahead; am sure they'll believe YOU without any professional credentials over these people WITH professional credentials and traffic reports. lol.

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