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Is party over for the Tea Partiers?

August 17, 2013

After the Tea Party’s ascendancy, attention is now being paid to those traditional conservatives like John McCain and Tom Coburn who want some co-operation with President Barack Obama....

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TruthSeeker

Sep-27-13 4:16 PM

We're not going anywhere. Get used to it liberals. Waaaaaaaaaaa.

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nelliebly

Aug-22-13 9:31 AM

solutions, you are in denial about the impact FoxNoise has had on you.

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solutions

Aug-22-13 8:13 AM

nellie, you have an unhealthy obsession with Fox News. Bye.

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nelliebly

Aug-22-13 7:49 AM

Staying on topic which is the demise of the tea party. FoxNoise once again proved Ailes' point that, paraphrasing PT Barnum, "There is a sucker born every minute".

Ailes describing FoxNews: "As for actual journalists? "F*** 'em," Ailes said. "It’s not a press conference – it’s a television show. Our television show. And the press has no business on the set."

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solutions

Aug-21-13 10:40 PM

nellie, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, thinks like a duck, it must be a duck. Hillary is running. Paglia thinks so, too.

Since you like Paglia so much, here's more of what she says about Hillary:

"I for one think it was a very big deal that our ambassador was murdered in Benghazi. In saying “I take responsibility” for it as secretary of state, Hillary should have resigned immediately.... The impression has been amply given that Benghazi was treated as a public relations matter to massage rather than as the major and outrageous attack on the U.S. that it was.

"As far as I’m concerned, Hillary disqualified herself for the presidency in that fist-pounding moment at a congressional hearing when she said, “What difference does it make what we knew and when we knew it, Senator?” Democrats have got to shake off the Clinton albatross and find new blood."

Joe Biden, anyone?

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nelliebly

Aug-21-13 8:39 PM

You continue to dredge up old and very well-known gossip, innuendo, opinion and misinformation about Hillary. As I said, she has not officially entered the 2016 presidential race, despite what you might believe...

solutions: "...Uh, Hillary is running for president."

Clearly you do not know anything about Roger Ailes and you claim to have stopped watching FoxNoise - perhaps you are embarrassed. In any event, there are many changes happening at FoxNoise. Remember, I guarantee that FN will soon be telling its viewers that Obamacare is the best idea the GOP has ever had. Stay tuned...

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solutions

Aug-21-13 7:18 PM

nellie, give me a break, please.

Do you agree with Paglia? Yes or no? It's not a hard question.

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nelliebly

Aug-21-13 1:56 PM

solutions, Hillary Clinton has not declared herself as a candidate for the presidency.

Again, what do you know about Roger Ailes?

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solutions

Aug-21-13 1:52 PM

nellie, do you agree with Paglia?

Uh, Hillary is running for president. Far as I know, Ailes isn't running for anything.

FYI: I haven't watched Fox News for months.

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nelliebly

Aug-21-13 1:34 PM

Wiki entry excerpt - Paglia: Some of her views have been characterized as conservative, but Paglia characterizes herself as a Clinton Democrat and libertarian. She opposes laws against prostitution, ***********, drugs, and abortion.

Paglia is a brilliant and provocative woman and I'm familiar with her writing and political positions.

Now, solutions...what do you know about Roger Ailes?

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solutions

Aug-21-13 1:03 PM

nellie:

Camille Paglia: "It remains baffling how anyone would think that Hillary Clinton (born the same year as me) is our party’s best chance. She has more sooty baggage than a 90-car freight train. And what exactly has she ever accomplished — beyond bullishly covering for her philandering husband? She’s certainly busy, busy and ever on the move — with the tunnel-vision workaholism of someone trying to blot out uncomfortable private thoughts."

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nelliebly

Aug-20-13 5:31 PM

Tell me, solutions...what do you know about Roger Ailes?

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solutions

Aug-20-13 5:06 PM

nellie, now I understand why you're thinking is so misguided. You rely on Gawker and Trotter.

It's no wonder you're off the wall.

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nelliebly

Aug-20-13 3:23 PM

OK, solutions, I'll comment on the NYT article about the Clinton Foundation. I agree with J. K. Trotter at GAWKER.

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solutions

Aug-20-13 2:51 PM

nellie, Ok, would you care to comment on the NYT investigation into the Clinton Foundation? And don't try to say Hillary's not involved. She's up to her eyeballs in the muck.

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nelliebly

Aug-20-13 12:07 PM

solutions, you can parse my sentence construction in an attempt to prove your own point; however, I chose my words carefully within the context of the excerpted quote you posted.

The RW Media Machine is very unwise to focus on Whitewater which was the investigation into a complicated real estate transaction which occurred decades ago. The investigation itself took place over twenty years ago and rather than compromising the Clintons, it resulted in highlighting the witch hunt mentality of the republican party.

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Antipoop

Aug-20-13 11:44 AM

Any recommendations? Who's your doctor? His drugs sound fun...

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solutions

Aug-20-13 9:26 AM

Nellie, you need to hone your critical reading skills.

The special prosecutor did NOT find they were not guilty. He just said they didn't have enough evidence to convict them.

There's a world of difference.

The Clintons paid enough lawyers to in effect obstruct the investigation. Give Hillary points for figuring out how to get out of trouble, but don't give her points for being "not guilty."

Now, you want to talk about Benghazi?

Antipoop: You need to see a doctor specializing in disorders of the brain.

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Antipoop

Aug-20-13 8:42 AM

"Politics, noun. A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage." —Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

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Antipoop

Aug-20-13 8:40 AM

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say none of you have researched the facts of your posts further than listing to the opinions of your favorite bias media. Fox News/NBC/CNN/NPR/etc.. If the left doesn't get you, the right will. Ever read the Benghazi Reports? Really read them? Or did your favorite anchorman read it to you? Ever been on wiki-leaks? Ever read any actual transcripts of the events transpiring in Libya/Syria/Gitmo/and even famine stricken Somalia? Or did your news say you weren't allowed to read them? I understand, 700,000 leaked Afghanistan documents are hard to read through. It's much easier to be a puppet and do as your told.

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nelliebly

Aug-19-13 1:11 PM

solutions, it was not necessary for me to make an argument for or against the Clintons. You provided the verbatim quote which, in fact, determined that they were not guilty of any wrong doing. Like it or not, the Special Prosecutor, with all the investigatory resources behind him, could not find any evidence to the contrary.

Excerpt: As for Whitewater, the special counsel, Robert Ray, concluded, "This office determined that the evidence was insufficient to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that either President or Mrs. Clinton knowingly participated in any criminal conduct."

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solutions

Aug-19-13 8:51 AM

nellie, your argument is so weak that it doesn't deserve a response. Goodbye.

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nelliebly

Aug-19-13 1:06 AM

So, solutions, despite the facts which you have provided, you prefer to believe the FoxNoise version. Clearly you will not accept facts even when you, yourself, cannot avoid quoting verbatim from the Special Prosecutor.

Excerpt: As for Whitewater, the special counsel, Robert Ray, concluded, "This office determined that the evidence was insufficient to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that either President or Mrs. Clinton knowingly participated in any criminal conduct."

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solutions

Aug-18-13 11:25 PM

Nellie, you're relying way too much on Huffington for your "news."

You're reference to Fox News escapes me. What in the world are you talking about?

As for Whitewater, the special counsel, Robert Ray, concluded,

"This office determined that the evidence was insufficient to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that either President or Mrs. Clinton knowingly participated in any criminal conduct."

Ray also criticized the White House, saying delays in the production of evidence and "unmeritorious litigation" by the president's lawyers hindered the investigation.

What it boils down to is that the Clintons spent a ton of money on lawyers and slipped out of the noose.

"Insufficient evidence" was hardly an exhoneration of the Clintons. They're shady from the get-go, and thanks to their stalling tactics, their guilt could not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Wonder if she'll include that in her campaign literature.

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nelliebly

Aug-18-13 7:27 PM

solutions, since you have been paying such rapt attention to FoxNoise, why don't you enlighten us about Whitewater...

For example, who was that Special Prosecutor again and what were the findings about the Clintons and Whitewater?

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